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Post by Zenobia [Stacy] on Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:46 pm

Just some basic facts about the arena:

First of all to get into the arena, you simply have to get your honor (trophies) up to 5,000. When you do, you will receive an invitation to join the arena. You are not in the arena until you accept the invitation. If you do not accept the invitation right away, at any later point, if you have 5,000 honor, you can tap the arena on the map and join.

Once in the arena, you have arena privileges until you fall below 4,750 honor. If you fall below 4,750 honor you will get a message that you are no longer in arena. To get back in, get to 5,000 honor in multiplayer again.

How the Arena Works

  • Tap the Arena icon on the map (or from your Home screen, tap menu on the bottom right next to Kingdom, then tap the Arena).
  • You will see three choices. You have 3 minutes to attack one of those, if you want to. Arena is unlike multiplayer in that you have a choice. If you don't think you can beat any of the 3 choices you are given, when the 3-minute timer is up, you get 3 new choices.
  • Your 3 choices are "Easy," "Medium" and "Hard." They are labeled thusly based on that player's ranking not based on how good their defense is. So the "hard" base may actually be easier to beat than the "medium. The "hard" battle is usually something like +18/-11, medium +14/-15, easy +11/-18. The + is + honor if you win, the - is - honor if you lose. Trophies, like in multiplayer, are taken from the other player. So if someone attacks you and it was +11/-18 for them: if they beat you, you lose 11, but if they fail to take down your SH, you get +18. Also, you can scroll through the choices quickly by picking one to look at, then using the left and right arrows on the edge of your screen.
  • Once you have joined arena, any arena battle you take part in on offense or defense causes you to gain or lose honor only. No one can take your gold in an arena battle. Joining arena also means that if you also continue to partake in multiplayer raids, you will win gold in them but not honor. Once in arena, multiplayer offense and defense is for gold only.
  • There is no arena shield. You retain your multiplayer shield that prevents multiplayer attacks taking your gold... but if you choose to stop playing multiplayer, if you only raid in arena, your multiplayer shield will be at least 12 hours instead of only 6.
  • Since there is no arena shield, it is possible to be demoted from the arena in a few hours if you upgrade too many defenses at once, or have a bad layout, or are not a high enough SH level causing all the high SH-level players to see you as like catching fish in a barrel.
  • Every arena battle choice (whether easy, hard or medium), costs 1 battle stone just like multiplayer. (It didn't always, but that is how it is now. Smile )
  • Unlike multiplayer, the clock is always in action one way or another in arena. First of all, if you are deciding how to attack a base before paying your stone to start, and the 3 minutes runs out, it goes away. Secondly, and this is very important, once you hit "battle now", the timer for the battle itself starts counting down immediately. You do NOT have time to ruminate on what troops you want to use, what ancient, where to drop them. Decide that before you hit "battle now" if possible. You can still change your troops & ancient, and I do frequently, but always remember that the the clock is ticking while you do this. The battle clock is 3 minutes, 30 seconds. Longer than multiplayer, but more time pressure due to it starting the moment you hit "battle now", not when you drop your first troop / cast your first spell.
  • Every time you win an arena raid, you win an arena chest. Arena chests are AWESOME. They are why you want to join the arena. In the next post I will list the contents of arena chests and odds.


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Re: ARENA ! ! !

Post by Zenobia [Stacy] on Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:47 pm

Arena Chest Contents
I am listing them in order of most commonly received to least. This is based on my keeping track in a spreadsheet of the last 835 arena raids I have won.
  • Gold (usually 500,000, but occasionally 750,000) [32%]
  • Boost (vanilla boosts but also boosts from old events including some great ones like Cold Blood, Sear, Vial of Fertility) [24%]
  • Rings (usually 100, but occasionally 500) [18%]
  • Primus (always 5k or 10k) [18%]
  • Battle Stones (2-10) [5%]
  • Ancient (always either an EPIC ancient or Zillah who is rare) [1.6%]
  • Diamonds (200 or 500!) [1.2%]
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Post by Zenobia [Stacy] on Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:32 pm

A little bit of arena strategy:

I always, always, always, ALWAYS check the hard option first. Then medium. Then sometimes the easy. There are a few reasons for this:
1) Why settle for +11 honor if you can get +18?
2) sometimes there are freebies, even in the hard category. High-ranked players often find their "hard" choices to be either impossible, or the game doesn't even find a hard choice for them. So, to be able to win arena chests, they purposely drop honor. The way they do this without wasting battle stones purposely losing on offense is to purposely lose on defense. The easiest way to purposely lose on defense is to move your SH from its real spot surrounded by defenses, to the corner, completely unprotected. A freebie! You never know when you'll get one but when you do see one, don't look that gift horse in the mouth - it is no trick - it really is a freebie!
3) If you want to stay in arena at a lower SH level (under 13), you MUST fight only hard (and occasionally medium) matches. Otherwise, the honor you earn on offense will not offset the honor you lose on defense. This was not the case when it cost players 3 or 4 stones to attack "easy" bases. But it is very much the case now that all arena raids cost only 1 stone.

During the 3 minutes you have to decide whether or not to attack a base, once you decide your strategy, decide what troops and ancient you are going to use BEFORE hitting the "battle now" button.

Your arena chest odds are the same whether you choose easy, medium or hard, whether you win a victory or epic victory, whether it was a freebie or not, and no matter how long you take to tap the chest to open it. The chest odds are what they are, period. They may change over time as the devs continue to tweak the game (gold used to be 35% for me, but in the last 200 chests has plummeted to 27.5% Sad ), but nothing you do affects the odds. Just win.

Strategy in arena is more like that in kingdom raids than it is like in multiplayer. All that matters is that the SH comes down. Ignore the gold (other than as a source of mana, and being in your way on the path to the SH).

It slows your progress down, but especially when under SH13, you really can't be upgrading more than 1, mayyyyyyybe 2 defenses at a time and expect to stay in arena. But that's okay - as long as you have at least 2 builders, and never occupy ALL your builders at the same time upgrading buildings, you can always be upgrading your walls at no defensive penalty. And your walls, which number 46 at SH11, will all cost $1 million or more.

Remember you are NEVER shielded in arena. If you start an upgrade, you will likely need to rearrange your defenses around that building being out of commission (then set them back for a few minutes when a Kingdom Raid is about to begin!!!). [If you didn't know, when you are in edit mode, to other players your buildings remain as they were before you started editing until the moment you tap the check mark that you are done. So it's okay to move all your buildings to the periphery and slowly build up your base around your SH until you are satisfied - no one but you sees your base in edit mode.]

If you choose to forgo playing multiplayer and only play arena (and dailies), you get a 12-hour or longer multiplayer shield instead of just 6 hours. Also, if you chose to leave multiplayer behind, you can still start the individual tourney, then close it out, to collect 5 bonus stones to use in arena without actually playing multiplayer! You won't win individual tourney rings, but odds are those 10 stones will win your 200 rings and 1.5 million gold in the arena, without compromising your extended shield.

That's all I can think of right now. Smile
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Re: ARENA ! ! !

Post by Zenobia [Stacy] on Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:14 pm

One other thing about arena: the initial 3-minute timer continues counting down even after you choose to engage in battle. If you take 02:35 to decide to start a battle, you have 00:25 remaining to drop your first troop/spell or it times out. If you spend the stone to engage in battle, but it times out before you can, you get to keep your stone anyway. But don't be like me and have a great base to beat but take too long picking your ancient / troops and the timer runs out on you lol.
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Re: ARENA ! ! !

Post by foxy benz on Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:40 am

okkkkk, as usual , huge info here Smile, thanks again Miss Zen.

euh... and I have no questions so far ^^
oh wait, found some:
1) can you quit the arena once you joined it? or you have to let your honor dropped to 4750 (if not happening naturally of course Smile )

2) how would you estimate your odds of winning against loosing let's say:

a) when you join (which sh level had you?)

b) when you were at level 7-8 Blacksmith troops leveled

c) when you finally had Viscaria !!!

d) now...

that's it for me for now.

cheers
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Post by Zenobia [Stacy] on Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:35 pm

1) The only way out of arena is to fall below 4750 honor. If you wanted to do that, you could move your stronghold to the corner, away from all defenses. You can also be in arena, but choose to not attack in arena. You can stick to multiplayer if you prefer it. But the arena chests are great. And you get to choose who to attack. I see no compelling reason to not use the arena if you can.

2) winning / losing odds:

a) When I joined arena, I was SH10, and didn't even have Viscaria yet (I got her in an arena chest Smile ), and I was fine staying 5000-5100 for a long time... but then they totally changed arena so "easy" attacks cost only 1 stone. There was a feeding frenzy and I was booted from arena during it, at SH... 11 or 12. I climbed back in in 3 days and have been keeping my honor much higher than that to avoid being booted overnight. Nowadays, I don't think a SH10 could last long. I rarely see one. And when I do, I attack it without even seeing how the base is laid out - it is guaranteed to be a LOT easier to beat than my usual fare.

b) I honestly have no clue when I hit that milestone lol. Sorry.

c) Again, I got Viscaria before the big changes to arena. The only thing I can say about dragons now is that I do occasionally get beaten in arena on defense by Emberclaw or Foreveil... but it is quite rare. Vissy, or at least Tally, I do believe are almost necessary to stay in arena.

d) Now, I win most of my attacks in arena... because that is the beauty of arena - you CHOOSE who to attack! As for defense, I win maybe 40%... which is quite good considering all arena attacks on me were people who thought they could beat me enough to spend a stone. Very Happy
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Re: ARENA ! ! !

Post by Skyraiders on Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:15 pm

I look forward to winning some of those bigger prizes....cuz the prizes right now stink in terms of what I need

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